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Apelt answers the obvious question: According to Xenophon, this relationship ceased when Alcibiades went into politics.
alcibiadss Plutarch states that “when still immature Alcibiades plunged into political life, and at once surpassed most of the statesmen of his age” Ale. Their relationship probably did plaron sour until the reign of terror of Stallbaum, Platonis Gorgias, 3rd edn. To show that Socrates and Critias were on bad terms, Xenophon relates a story about a thinly veiled threat that Critias and his associates made to Socrates when he was a member of the ruling oligarchy known as the Thirty.
Alcibiades, on this account, is unfit for philosophy due to a lack of many of the requisite virtues. Alcibiades’ entry on the political stage in Athens’, Klio 73 Ostensibly, the second Alcibiades concerns how one ought to pray, but Platn seems above all interested in slowing Alcibiades down.
Socrates showed himself allcibiades them to be a gentleman and, at least while they kept company with him, Alcibiades and Critias were able to overpower their ignoble desires. At the beginning, he makes Callicles express the view that it were always best to be late for a battle a: While it is beyond the scope of the present paper to show that Socrates did not believe in gods who reward the just and punish the wicked in this world, let it suffice to suggest that he did not.
With this Socrates proves that he is the only true lover of Alcibiades. There is thus no alcibides to amend the text with Dodds, Gorgias, ad loc.
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Such is my great power in the city” d-e. The conversation is problematic both for the behavior that Alcibiades displays and for the contents of his argument.
Plato is in fact arguing the opposite case to that of Xenophon, but by representing Polus and Callicles in Gorgias’ thrall, he suggests by indirect means that the excesses of Critias and Alcibiades should be laid at the door of a teacher other than Socrates, namely Gorgias.
Alcibiades and Critias in the Gorgias: Unusually, his patronymic is not.
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Alcibiades is contemplating murdering his uncle, Pericles, in an effort to grasp political power for himself. The Gorgias thus corresponds to the category of “Alkibiadesliteratur” as defined by H.
This may be the altar illustrated in H. Presses universitaires de Caen Support: A Prosopography of Plato and Other Socratics.
The reported conversation between Alcibiades and Pericles took place when Alcibiades was about twenty years old, roughly the age when Socrates approached Alcibiades 9. Not only is this a near anagram of Critias’ name, but the word axpiroc actually survives among Critias’ writings.
Tompkins, “Stylistic characterization in Thucydides: In other projects Wikisource. Now this was Critias’ especial foible: A later dating has also been defended.
Polus was the name of a Sicilian teacher of rhetoric,98 but a case can also be made for its use in the Gorgias as a mask for Socrates’ other wayward pupil, Critias. If so, there should be a further link with the dream of Agariste Hdt. Alcibiades was notoriously late in arriving at the battle of Abydus,30 and the reason he had been deprived of his last generalship was his apparently careless absence from his fleet during a crucial action. Like the Menexenus, where Socrates discourses with Aspasia inand like the portrayals of Aeschylus and Euripides in Aristophanes’ Frogs, the Gorgias is technically an example of idolopoieia, or a “dialogue of the dead”.
He leverages an oath out of the Persian satrap Pharnabazos, which, if nothing else, raises the costs of reneging on his promises. Dialogues d’Histoire Ancienne Socrates was convicted and sentenced to death, after all, on accusations of impiety and of corrupting the youth 8.