John Dillery, Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho, with an afterword on Demetrius. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, , Pp. Book review of Dillery (J.) Clio’s other sons: Berossus and Manetho, with an afterword on Demetrius. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press. An Opportunity: Hellenization and World History. Something obviously very big happened in the history of the world in the Hellenistic period.
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The Mesopotamian documents known as King-List A one copy from the 6th or 5th centuries BC and Chronicle anx 3 copies with one confidently dated to BC are usually suggested as the ones he used, due to the synchronicity between those and his History though there are some differences.
Except where otherwise noted, this work is subject to a Creative Commons Attribution 3. Do you think the Ancient Greek approach to history has any influence on historiography today? This is similar to another Babylonian history, Chronicle of Nabonidus as beroszus as to the Hebrew Bibleand differs from the rationalistic accounts of other Greek historians like Thucydides.
In composing his history, Berossus drew on the mythic-historiographical tradition of Mesopotamia, and specifically on such well known texts as the creation myth Enuma ElishAtrahasisand the king lists, which provided the point of departure and conceptual framework for a universal berossks. Whether he shared Hellenistic skepticism about the existence of the gods beeossus their tales is unknown, though it is likely he believed them more than the satirist Ovidfor example.
An interview with John Dillery, author of Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho
Both of these early Hellenistic native priests—who wrote now fragmentary histories of their respective homelands in Greek—have received a lot of scholarly attention recently.
Something obviously very big happened in the history of the world in the Hellenistic period. Corrupting Luxury in Ancient Greek Literature. Again, it is likely that he used king-lists, beossus it is not known which ones he used. Where do you start?
An excerpt from Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho, by John Dillery – Runciman Award
Reviewed by Joyce Rilett Wood Toronto. Reversal of sequence, however, is one way nerossus authors marked their reliance on literary sources e. Like Poseidonius’, neither Alexander’s nor Juba’s works have survived. Do you have another book in the pipeline? Even if it is true that Manetho did not have the Exodus story in mind p. It is suggested that it was commissioned by Antiochus I, perhaps desiring a history of one of his newly acquired lands, or by the Great Temple priests, seeking justification for the worship of Marduk mqnetho Seleucid lands.
Indeed, this was more than one would suspect a Babylonian would or could do.
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In this volume John Dillery charts the interactions of all these features of these historians. Instead, the reduced association between Mesopotamia and the Greco-Roman lands during Parthian rule was partially responsible. They were members of native elites under the domination of Macedonian overlords; in their writings we can see suggestions that they collaborated in the foreign rule bberossus their lands, but at the same time we see them advocating for their cultures. University of Michigan Press Only in Book 3 do we see his opinions begin to enter the picture.
Would berissus non-Greeks have been encouraged to read this document there? His claim for the late dating of the Pentateuch is based on a small amount of text. But the mythic and archaic element was combined with the chronicles of rulers which can lay claim to being in some degree genuinely historical.
It is an immensely stimulating book that will foster much future research on Berossus and Manetho.
Schnabel, Burstein think that a number of references are not what Manerho wrote himself but later interpolations by Jewish writers to make a reading conform bersosus Genesis pp. Within this construction, the sacred myths blended with history. I started by thinking hard about why these non-Greek priests — Berossus the Babylonian and Manetho the Egyptian — would want to write a history of their native lands in a language not their own, using in some cases methods of treating the past that were not their own, but from elements that were.
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What subjects are you particularly inspired by at the moment? There is some evidence that he resisted adding information to his research, especially for the earlier periods with which he was not familiar.
How long does it take to research a work such as this?
But if Berossus was able to deduce from Enuma Elish that Tiamat the primeval sea was darkness, then the writer of Gen 1: The Church fathers suggested dependence of Berossus on Genesis 1—11, but Hellenistic scholars e. Greek historiography in general, Hellenistic historiography in particular, and even Babylonian and Egyptian history. Not surprisingly, no one before Gmirkin has ever supposed that Berossus is the direct source for the authors of Genesis 1—11, especially since the hypothesis implies that learned Jews of the third century BCE chose an inferior literary work on Babylonian history, written in poor Greek Burstein, p.
More recently, see the studies of D. I should add here that I do not think there ahd just one Greek approach to history; the Greeks practiced all sorts of approaches; they also happened to have the one exemplified by the likes of Herodotus, Thucydides, and Polybius. Although he claims that Josephus engages with historians on Egypt as far back as Hecataeus of Abdera and Manetho, Dillery has already noted that Josephus actually goes all the way back to Herodotus.
The list of sententiae is very much like lists we find elsewhere e. It is not known when he died. Do you set out with a basic hypothesis that you wish to demonstrate, and organise your material accordingly, or do you start out with an idea that inspires you, and let the material lead you where it will? He also provided an explanation of what he had done in mantho form of an epigram in elegiac pentameters: Haubold and one on Manetho by J. What we have of ancient Mesopotamian myth is somewhat comparable with Berossus, though the exact integrity with which he transmitted his sources is unknown because much of the literature of Mesopotamia has not survived.
Certainly he furnished details of his own life within his histories, which contrasted with the Mesopotamian tradition of anonymous scribes.